PODCAST: Wrestling with the Ox

Dharma Discourse by Geoffrey Shugen Arnold, Sensei photo of Geoffrey Shugen Arnold, Sensei

In this talk, Shugen Sensei continues the teachings about the stages along the path. The 4th stage of the Ox Herding Pictures illustrates the practitioner’s wrestling with the ox.  He says it’s important to be diligent with our practice because we’ve gained some insight at this stage, making it easy to attach to it and turning it into a “thing.”  We should not relax here.

The koan in this talk is “Chih Men’s Lotus Flower, Lotus Leaves,” case 21 of the Blue Cliff Record. This discourse was given at Zen Center of NYC on April 21st,  2013.


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